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    Posted: 16 April 2004 at 4:41am

Hi! I've been testing Spamfilter ISP for some time, and I find it very good. We're going to buy a product within a short timerange... But before we decide I need to know a few things... :

We have problems that especially .pdf files are stopped by the blacklisted keywords. But non of the keywords are in the .pdf...

1. How can this be fixed
2. It would be VERY great if there was an .ini setting that we could use to enable/disable scanning of attachments.. OR exclude certain attachments...

Waiting for an answer :-)

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Morten Authen

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Desperado Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2004 at 2:49pm

Morten,

Are you using Regular Expressions in your keywords or "literal" words?  When using literals, one risk is that binary attachments contain one long string of characters and eventually, odds are, a match will turn up.  Our customers send pdf's all the time and do not seem to have that issue but I use all regular expressions.

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I use "litteral" words as you described...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Desperado Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2004 at 3:44pm

Morten,

What version are you running?  Also, many users dissagree with me but I feel that literals only get you into trouble.  With literals, your chances of false positives becomes very high. What is good about the regular expressions is that you can filter on the methods that Spam uses to get past filters rather than the words themselves.  That way you are not "Censoring" the messages but blocking messages that are attempting to obscure their content.  That is not to say that I have ZERO literals in my expressions but I limit the use.  I actually only have 20 keywords (at this exact time) and I block an incredible amount of Spam with a very low "False Positive" count.

Some of my expressions will not work with older versions of SpamFilter.  I have some that look at the "Subject" field which is a fairly new feature.  That is why I asked about the version you are running.  If you are serious about filtering Spam for your users and are actually looking to purchase a product, I feel that SpamFilter is a great value.  If this is the direction you are going in, let me know and I can show you some examples of RegEx's that may solve your problem with blocked pdf files.

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Morten,

If you post your keyword blacklist we may be able to spot which entry(s) are possibly causing you the false positives. As Dan pointed out, please note that filtering for single, short (3-4 letter words) can yield more false positives one would like.

SpamFilter ISP should only scan within the text portions of the emails, and the MIME textual parts, so PDF's contents should be ignored.

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Thanks for your help!

The keywordlist can be downloaded here --> http://www.authen.no/keywords.txt

Thanks again!

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Roberto, did you find anything?

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Morten,

We've double-checked, and PDF attachments are being correctly skipped by the keyword searches. Your keyword list is very reasonable, and while it may trigger just a small handlful of false positives it does not appear to be made of keywords that would cause you to loose PDFs.

We've added your keywords to our own SpamFilter handling LogSat's emails. Could you please send us one such emails with PDFs to support@logsat.com, followed by one without an attachment so we'll know how to find it if it does get blocked?

Could you also please send us one of your zipped SpamFilter's activity logs for a day when such emails were blocked? We'll need to know the to/from email addresses involved and the time the email was sent so we can find it.

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Morten,

You're using version 1.2.0.212. That build does have a bug in that it does not recognize the PDF in your email tests as a non-text attachment and scans thru it for the keywords. The keywords are indeed present in the base64-encoded email source, and thus the keyword filter blocks it.

That problem has been solved in version 2.0, which is why we were able to receive your test emails with no problems.

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