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 Topic: Messages are not being deliveredPosted: 18 January 2008 at 4:32pm |
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I have moved my Spam filter to a new server but now no emails are being delivered properly.
I am running it on:
XP Pro
Running SPamfilter 4.0.0.768
I think it has to do with my Access DB but am unsure. I have checked it and do see entries with deliver set to -1. I am a registered user.
My question is is there a setting i need to set to get the software to deliver these messages. Please help
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 9:39am |
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John,
The database is only used to store the quarantined emails, it has nothing to do with the receiving and forwarding of emails. SpamFilter will run even if the database is not present. If you can please stop and start SpamFilter, and post the log entries that are generated in the activity logfile from the time you start SpamFilter to about one minute later, we'll try to see if there's anything majorly wrong. If you want, you can zip and email us your entire logfile for the day at our support email address. |
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 9:28am |
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Here is the log. Note that this server is not running in produciton until I can resovle this issue. The issue is that the spam filter is not forwarding spam that is tagged for delivery using the web interface.
01/21/08 09:26:14:055 -- SpamFilter ISP v4.0.0.768 Listening on all IPs port 25 01/21/08 09:26:14:055 -- (2660) Found new domain in tbl_LocalDomains: SFI. Creating new FilterObject 01/21/08 09:26:14:055 -- (2660) Detected differences in file timestamps - forcing DB export 01/21/08 09:26:14:071 -- (2660) Reloading filter.ini: domains\SFI\Filters.ini 01/21/08 09:26:14:086 -- (2660) Reloading file for tbl_LocalDomains: AllowedDomains.txt (18 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:086 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblWL_AuthorizedTOEmails: C:\AuthList.txt (6653 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:086 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblWL_Keywords: C:\Allowkeywords.txt (40 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:102 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblWL_EmailsFrom: C:\email\AllowAddress.txt (4615 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:102 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblWL_EmailsTO: c:\InternalAddress.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:133 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblWL_AutoWhiteListForceDelivery: AutoWhiteListForceDelivery.txt (73195 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:133 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_EmailsFrom: C:\email\Blockaddress.txt (17736 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:133 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_EmailsTO: c:\blackto.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:149 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_Countries: domains\SFI\BL_Countries.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:149 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_MAPS: domains\SFI\BL_MAPS.txt (112 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:149 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_Keywords: C:\keywords.txt (598 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:149 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_Attachments: C:\Attachments.txt (256 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:149 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_SURBL: domains\SFI\BL_SURBL.txt (220 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:164 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_HoneypotEmails: C:\HoneyPotAddresses.txt (26 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:164 -- (2660) Reloading file for tblBL_HoneypotBlockedIPs: HoneypotBlockedIPs.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:180 -- (2660) Reloading file for tbl_SFIFiltermatrix: AllowedDomainFilterMatrix.txt (62 bytes) 01/21/08 09:26:14:180 -- Reloading local black / white lists: C:\Program Files\SpamFilter\ccTLDs.txt 01/21/08 09:26:15:602 -- (380) SpamFilterForm - Begin loading corpus.db 01/21/08 09:26:15:602 -- (1920) BayesianThread starting 01/21/08 09:26:15:602 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 09:26:15:602 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind46C.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:15:602 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind46D.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:024 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (124) 01/21/08 09:26:16:024 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind46D.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:024 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind46C.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:024 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 09:26:16:024 -- (1920) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 4 (188) 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 3 (188) 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 2 (172) 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 1 (0) 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db - 105696 - 0 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 0c 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 0b 01/21/08 09:26:16:039 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 0a 01/21/08 09:26:16:055 -- (1920) Begin Sync Corpus.db 01/21/08 09:26:16:102 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 5 (219) 01/21/08 09:26:16:164 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 6 (297) 01/21/08 09:26:16:164 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 7 (297) 01/21/08 09:26:16:164 -- (1920) Sync Corpus.db pass 8 (297) 01/21/08 09:26:16:164 -- (1920) End Sync Corpus.db (297) 01/21/08 09:26:16:461 -- Listener Started 01/21/08 09:26:16:508 -- Exception occurred during PerformPostStartupTasks: Could not bind socket. Address and port are already in use. 01/21/08 09:26:16:618 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind46F.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:618 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind46E.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:618 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind46E.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind46F.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) TSpamFilterForm - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (139) 01/21/08 09:26:16:789 -- (380) SpamFilterForm - End loading corpus.db 01/21/08 09:26:22:164 -- (2536) Starting to process queue directory... 01/21/08 09:26:22:211 -- (960) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 09:26:22:211 -- (960) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 09:26:22:664 -- (3616) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 09:26:22:493 -- (3548) Saved GreyListAllowed.txt 01/21/08 09:26:22:680 -- (1932) Starting to process quarantine directory... 01/21/08 09:26:23:586 -- (3932) Deleted Expired quarantined items 01/21/08 09:26:26:321 -- Bayesian Thread is not running - starting... 01/21/08 09:26:26:586 -- (2372) BayesianThread starting 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (156) 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind471.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind470.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind471.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind470.tmp 01/21/08 09:26:26:946 -- (2372) TBayesianThread - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 09:26:27:696 -- (2608) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 09:26:27:696 -- (3284) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 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jerbo128
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 10:24am |
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Johndpatriot1:
The key to the problem is this line:
01/21/08 09:26:16:508 -- Exception occurred during PerformPostStartupTasks: Could not bind socket. Address and port are already in use.
Some other application or service is using you port (probably port 25). Are you running Microsoft SMTP service maybe?
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 10:31am |
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jerbo128,
Good call. I was about to answer this also.
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 11:34am |
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Thanks Guys, that fixed the socket error in the logs (nice call)
but it is not sending the spam emails yet. any other thoughts?
New log below
01/21/08 11:25:47:883 -- SpamFilter ISP v4.0.0.768 Listening on all IPs port 25
01/21/08 11:25:47:883 -- (2440) Found new domain in tbl_LocalDomains: SFI. Creating new FilterObject 01/21/08 11:25:47:899 -- (2440) Detected differences in file timestamps - forcing DB export 01/21/08 11:25:47:930 -- (2440) Reloading filter.ini: domains\SFI\Filters.ini 01/21/08 11:25:47:930 -- (2440) Reloading file for tbl_LocalDomains: AllowedDomains.txt (18 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:930 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblWL_AuthorizedTOEmails: C:\AuthList.txt (6653 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:946 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblWL_Keywords: C:\Allowkeywords.txt (40 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:946 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblWL_EmailsFrom: C:\email\AllowAddress.txt (4615 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:946 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblWL_EmailsTO: c:\InternalAddress.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:961 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblWL_AutoWhiteListForceDelivery: AutoWhiteListForceDelivery.txt (73195 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:977 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_EmailsFrom: C:\email\Blockaddress.txt (17736 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:977 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_EmailsTO: c:\blackto.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:977 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_Countries: domains\SFI\BL_Countries.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:977 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_MAPS: domains\SFI\BL_MAPS.txt (112 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:977 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_Keywords: C:\keywords.txt (598 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_Attachments: C:\Attachments.txt (256 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_SURBL: domains\SFI\BL_SURBL.txt (220 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_HoneypotEmails: C:\HoneyPotAddresses.txt (26 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- (2440) Reloading file for tblBL_HoneypotBlockedIPs: HoneypotBlockedIPs.txt (0 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- (2440) Reloading file for tbl_SFIFiltermatrix: AllowedDomainFilterMatrix.txt (62 bytes) 01/21/08 11:25:47:993 -- Reloading local black / white lists: C:\Program Files\SpamFilter\ccTLDs.txt 01/21/08 11:25:49:383 -- (3160) SpamFilterForm - Begin loading corpus.db 01/21/08 11:25:49:399 -- (3164) BayesianThread starting 01/21/08 11:25:49:399 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 11:25:49:399 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind48E.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:49:399 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind48F.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:49:618 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind48F.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:49:618 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind48E.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:49:618 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 11:25:49:618 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 11:25:49:633 -- (3164) TBayesianThread - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (124) 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Begin Sync Corpus.db 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 0a 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 0b 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 0c 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db - 105696 - 0 01/21/08 11:25:49:821 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 1 (0) 01/21/08 11:25:49:836 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 2 (156) 01/21/08 11:25:49:836 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 3 (156) 01/21/08 11:25:49:836 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 4 (156) 01/21/08 11:25:49:883 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 5 (188) 01/21/08 11:25:49:883 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 6 (234) 01/21/08 11:25:49:883 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 7 (234) 01/21/08 11:25:49:883 -- (3164) Sync Corpus.db pass 8 (234) 01/21/08 11:25:49:883 -- (3164) End Sync Corpus.db (234) 01/21/08 11:25:50:196 -- Listener Started 01/21/08 11:25:50:321 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind491.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:50:321 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind490.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:50:321 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) SpamFilterForm - End loading corpus.db 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (171) 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind491.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind490.tmp 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 11:25:50:586 -- (3160) TSpamFilterForm - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 11:25:56:946 -- (224) Starting to process queue directory... 01/21/08 11:25:56:961 -- (1820) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:25:56:961 -- (1820) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:25:58:149 -- (616) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:25:58:164 -- (296) Saved GreyListAllowed.txt 01/21/08 11:25:58:180 -- (692) Starting to process quarantine directory... 01/21/08 11:25:59:180 -- (3868) Deleted Expired quarantined items 01/21/08 11:25:59:743 -- Bayesian Thread is not running - starting... 01/21/08 11:26:00:008 -- (2776) BayesianThread starting 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - End LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) (186) 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind493.tmp 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - loaded files in memory - Ind492.tmp 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - Reading Buffer in mem 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - setting Buffer size to 1588166 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat.prb -> Ind493.tmp 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - LoadFromFile for Corpus.db - copied db.dat -> Ind492.tmp 01/21/08 11:26:00:399 -- (2776) TBayesianThread - Begin LoadFromFile for corpus.db (db.dat) 01/21/08 11:26:03:149 -- (1176) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:26:04:133 -- (3372) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:26:48:633 -- (3348) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:26:48:633 -- (3348) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:26:48:633 -- (2236) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:26:51:539 -- (956) Starting to process queue directory... 01/21/08 11:27:48:133 -- (3908) Starting to process queue directory... 01/21/08 11:27:48:774 -- (748) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:27:48:774 -- (748) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:27:48:789 -- (2760) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:27:49:774 -- (3624) Starting to process queue directory... 01/21/08 11:27:53:774 -- (268) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:27:53:774 -- (3092) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:28:48:649 -- (3848) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:28:48:649 -- (3848) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:28:48:649 -- (3308) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:29:48:758 -- (848) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:29:48:868 -- (848) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:29:49:102 -- (3536) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:29:54:321 -- (2444) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:29:54:321 -- (2664) HTTP Error in GetSFDBStats:Connect timed out. 01/21/08 11:30:51:274 -- (2052) Starting to process quarantine directory... 01/21/08 11:30:51:274 -- (3932) Blacklist cache - starting cleanup 01/21/08 11:30:51:274 -- (1816) Running TTerminateIdleThreads SSL - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:30:51:274 -- (1816) Running TTerminateIdleThreads - SFTC=0 - SFFC=0 01/21/08 11:30:51:180 -- (2300) Saved GreyListAllowed.txt |
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 2:29pm |
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Johndpatriot1,
I'm not sure I understand exactly what the issue is, as there are many possible problems being mentioned here. originally you reported problems with "no emails being delivered properly". In the following post you specified that the problem is "not forwarding spam that is tagged for delivery using the web interface". However in the logs, both jerbo128 and desperado correctly spotted problems in your SpamFilter installation caused by another application taking control of port 25. This was preventing SpamFilter from accepting any incoming SMTP connections. But from the last log entries you posted, we still see that SpamFilter did not process a single incoming email in the 5 minute span in the log. Now, if this is by design, and no email is supposed to be routed to SpamFilter, please ignore this comment. if however email is supposed to be received by SpamFilter, there may still be something in your network configuration that is preventing the SMTP traffic from reaching SpamFilter. If emails are not supposed to reach this SpamFilter, and you only wish to use it to deliver quarantined emails that are stored in the database, there may be the following problem (along with a solution): When a company is running multiple servers with SpamFilter, all pointing to the same quarantine database, each SpamFilter server will always know which emails stored in the database it owns. This allows the correct original SpamFilter server that stopped the email to begin with, to be the one delivering the email in case the user selects to force-deliver it using the quarantine web interface. This is done by assigning a different ID to each instance of SpamFilter. If you look at the SpamFilter.ini files on both new and old servers, you should see they both have an entry: tblServersServerID=1 and each one should have an unique ID. This ID should have been automatically generated by SpamFilter on the initial setup. If you then look in the database, there's a table called tblServers. In that table you should see listed your two SpamFilter servers, along with their relative server names and ServerID. Lastly, if you look at the emails in the tblQuarantine, you should see that there is a field called "ServerID" that we use to identify which server caught that email. This is how each SpamFilter keeps tracks of the emails it owns. Now, if all these parameters mismatch, meaning you are trying to use the "new" server to deliver emails from the quarantine that were saved by the "old" server, then emails will indeed not be delivered. The solution, despite the complicated explanation above, is rather simple. Edit the tblServers table, and change the existing server name in the table to the name of the new server. Then edit the tblServersServerID value in the SpamFilter.ini file and assign it the value that is stored in the database. Please note that you will need to stop SpamFilter before making these changes. |
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 6:11pm |
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Thanks Roberto. The server ID in the database was for the old one. I switched it and made the new server the same as the old server ID since the old server was retired. All seems to be working now. Thanks alot
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