Spam Filter ISP Forums : Submit Spam Feature https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ Thu, 05 Mar 2026 09:51:10 +0000 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:58:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.04 360 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5588 <![CDATA[Spam Filter ISP Forums]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : Really depends on your mail mix....]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8918&title=submit-spam-feature#8918 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 5588
Posted: 05 September 2006 at 3:58pm

Really depends on your mail mix. Start with 6 and see how it goes. We tried 4 but ended up blocking hotmail.com and comcast.net which were in the SFDB.]]> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:58:53 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8918&title=submit-spam-feature#8918 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : so what is good level to start...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8917&title=submit-spam-feature#8917 Author: MartinC
Subject: 5588
Posted: 05 September 2006 at 12:03pm

so what is good level to start using the SFDB option?

we currently don't have it enabled but I'm certainly interested in trying it.

3 sounds dodgy from this thread.

10 or more?

and presumeably people are choosing the options which to check on like keywords, bayesian, invalid sender etc.

]]> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:03:17 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8917&title=submit-spam-feature#8917 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : excellent....sorted. Thanks everyone...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8755&title=submit-spam-feature#8755 Author: StevenJohns
Subject: 5588
Posted: 17 August 2006 at 3:49am

excellent....sorted.

Thanks everyone for clearing this up.

 

]]> Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:49:28 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8755&title=submit-spam-feature#8755 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : ... there&#039;s actually a bug...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8754&title=submit-spam-feature#8754 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 11:30pm

... there's actually a bug in SpamFilter that helps in your request. Please see the thread at http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID= 4970.

It will also explain why the bug won't be fixed
]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:30:59 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8754&title=submit-spam-feature#8754 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : Roberto, got the PM..thanks. sgeorge,...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8752&title=submit-spam-feature#8752 Author: StevenJohns
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 5:46pm

Roberto, got the PM..thanks.

sgeorge, thanks for the explanation.

I think that I need to whitelist the tesco domain for certain local domains. I know that I can whitelist certain sender email addresses for specific recipients, but can I whitelist *@tesco.com for *@mydomain.com ?? if so, how??

 

Cheers

]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:46:45 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8752&title=submit-spam-feature#8752 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : Steven, maybe I can try to explain...The...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8751&title=submit-spam-feature#8751 Author: sgeorge
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 5:08pm

Steven, maybe I can try to explain...

The network reliability number is the number of registered SpamFilter installations that have reported one or more blocked emails from a particular email.

Let's try a hypothetical example...
  • Your network reliability level is set to 3
  • my domain, which uses the SFDB, blocks 20 messages from 123.123.123.123.  my domain submits 123.123.123.123 to the SFDB, and the SFDB accepts 1 and only 1 submission for 123.123.123.123 from me.
  • Joe's domain, also on the SFDB, blocks 5 messages from 123.123.123.123; that becomes the 2nd submission for 123.123.123.123 on the SFDB.
  • Bob's domain, also on the SFDB, blocks 5 message from 123.123.123.123 as well;that becomes the 2nd submission for 123.123.123.123 on the SFDB.
  • You are receiving a message from 123.123.123.123.  Your SpamFilter setup is trying to determine if it should accept the connection.  When you query the SFDB, it says 123.123.123.123 has been blocked 3 times.  Since this is greater than or equal to your network reliability limit, you block the message from 123.123.123.123.
If I'm not making sense, then that's just me being myself.

Stephen
]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:08:01 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8751&title=submit-spam-feature#8751 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : As I mentioned earlier, you can...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8750&title=submit-spam-feature#8750 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 5:04pm

As I mentioned earlier, you can always login the registered user area of the website, and perform detailed lookups on the SFDB database to see more details on what is being blocked and for what reason.

Let me explain the "100 complaints".

Consider the following example:

SpamFilter is shipped with default RBL servers. One of them is spamcop's bl.spamcop.net. Tesco sends 10,000 emails, and 100 customers complain and report Tesco to spamcop. Spamcop will then blacklist Tesco in its blacklist. Hundreds of SpamFilter administrators are using spamcop, so when they receive an email form Tesco, they will report it as spam to the SFDB. If more than "nn" different SpamFilter's report that IP to the SFDB, then the SFDB will list the IP.

Please note that Tesco would have to send emails to users who's provider runs SpamFilter (and is using spamcop), in order for SpamFilter to report the IP.

]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:04:32 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8750&title=submit-spam-feature#8750 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : Roberto, Now I&#039;m confused... An...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8748&title=submit-spam-feature#8748 Author: StevenJohns
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 4:49pm

Roberto,

Now I'm confused...

An earlier post suggested that the "Network Reliability" number was the minimum number of "spam complaints" that an IP had to have before SF DB would block the IP. Then, (as the default is 3), Webguyz suggested 6, Marco suggested 10 as being a suitable number, but you are suggesting that the tesco IP might have more than 100 "complaints".

Please can you have a look at your database and give me some examples of how many "complaints" some IP's typically get. I understand that you may not wish prying spammers to know this, so feel free to PM it to me. This will give me a good idea as to what a realistic number should be.

 

Cheers

]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:49:53 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8748&title=submit-spam-feature#8748 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : Marco,Thanks for your explanation,...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8746&title=submit-spam-feature#8746 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 4:26pm

Marco,

Thanks for your explanation, you are right on the money. We actually slightly increased the lower limit on the SFDB lookups on our database server itself. This means that our SFDB lookups won't provide a positive match unless there are at least nnn other reports. I'd like to keep the number private so that lurker spammers don't see it. If you wish to know just PM/email us, we'll provide the value.

StevenJohns, if Tesco was listed in the SFDB, it's because a rather large number of recipients have complained. And while I have no proof, I'm guessing it's quite larger than 100... Please note that there have to be a certain number of *different* providers/companies running SpamFilter that have received emails from Tesco, not just one company. For example, if 100 users at LogSat.com complained that it was spam, the report would be only one, from logsat.com. However, the 100 users from LogSat.com would report the spam to MAPS RBL services, like sorbs or spamcop. In this case, if these service blacklist Tesco, and multiple SpamFilter administrators use these RBLs, then yes, each SpamFilter installation would send a report. In this case, the SFDB would then contain the same information as the RBL. If users believe this is wrong, or do not wish to use the SFDB for IPs that were blacklisted due to RBLs, the SFDB lookups can be configured to not use RBL (or any other filter you wish).
]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:26:59 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8746&title=submit-spam-feature#8746 <![CDATA[Submit Spam Feature : p.s. you can allways whitelist...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5588&PID=8740&title=submit-spam-feature#8740 Author: Marco
Subject: 5588
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 11:33am

p.s. you can allways whitelist this tesco domain, if you think it ok all your internal users can receive their mails.

 

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