Spam Filter ISP Forums : Bayesian Filtering Concerns https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ Mon, 18 May 2026 18:05:38 +0000 Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:40:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.04 360 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5498 <![CDATA[Spam Filter ISP Forums]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : Thanks for the update. Please...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7376&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7376 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5498
Posted: 12 February 2006 at 10:40pm

Thanks for the update. Please note that the updated corpus database is flushed to disk every 10 minutes or so, so changes/updates may not show up until the flush has occurred.]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:40:20 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7376&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7376 <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : It seems to be moving again. It...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7375&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7375 Author: jasone
Subject: 5498
Posted: 12 February 2006 at 10:05pm

It seems to be moving again.

It seems that when it is running as a service and the GUI isopened and some changes are made and then closed this seems to happen.  I restarted the service after the GUI wasopened and it appears to be working now.  This however could just be a coincidence.  I have opened up the GUI again to see it Ican duplicate it or it was just a fluke.

I will give you details tomorrow.  I have an early flight but when I get to myhotel I will log on to see what that stats are.

Thanks for all your help.

Jason

]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:05:20 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7375&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7375 <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : If you&#039;re comparing the values...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7374&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7374 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5498
Posted: 12 February 2006 at 2:47pm

If you're comparing the values in the corpus.ini file against the ones reported in the GUI under "Emails forwarded" and "Emails blocked", there will be a mismatch as there are some cases where incoming emails are not analyzed. However if the values in the  corpus database are not updated as you said, then yes, that would be a problem.

For the latter, could you check SpamFilter's GUI under the "Settings - Bayesian Filter" tab, and check that the "bayesian Learning Status" indicator on the left panel says "Active". If it is active, could you please zip the contents of the SpamFilter\corpus directory in a zip file, wait about 30-60 minutes, then zip the same directory in a different file, and email us both zips so we can compare them? If the zip file is too large, I'll send you a private forum message with instrucitons on how to upload them to our ftp site.
]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:47:55 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7374&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7374 <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : The update seems to be changing...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7373&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7373 Author: jasone
Subject: 5498
Posted: 12 February 2006 at 11:34am

The update seems to be changing values in the corpus database, however, when looking at the corpus.ini file it appears to be stuck and no longer increasing numbers for the mesages.

I reset the database and since then the server has processed more than 5000 emails of both SPAM and Non Spam by the totals on the GUI interface does not jive with the corpus.ini file.
]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:34:48 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7373&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7373 <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : Jason,During the past few days...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7367&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7367 Author: LogSat
Subject: 5498
Posted: 09 February 2006 at 10:05pm

Jason,

During the past few days we've been gathering and examining statistical corpus database from some users and you are correct, there is an issue. Data is not being updated correctly in some cases. We are testing internally a patched build that we believe solves the problem, but it will take another day or two of "live" usage to see if there are improvements. If you would like to test this update before we make it public, please contact us by email and we'll be glad to provide it to you.
]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:05:55 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7367&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7367 <![CDATA[Bayesian Filtering Concerns : I have read all of your docs regarding...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5498&PID=7364&title=bayesian-filtering-concerns#7364 Author: Guests
Subject: 5498
Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:52pm

I have read all of your docs regarding filtering and alsounderstand that the filtering method is the very last thing that it checks butit appears that it is not very aggressive. I have also communicated with you via email. 

Out of 100,000 emails, 13,283 have gone though which is verynice but it seems that Bayesian Filtering is not working at all even if it isthe last thing that it checks.  I have checkedthe logs and it shows that every email that has gone through shows 0%probability of SPAM.  Which I know is notthe case.  Out of that 13,283 emailsthere are still quite a few of emails that are getting through that should atleast show some sort of a probability of SPAM.   It has not even caught one.

We use Cerberus Helpdesk as our internal support deskwhich has Bayesian Filtering as well and goes through a learning process and capturespretty close to every email at this time that is SPAM that spamfilter ISP misses.  This is great for us but does not help ourcustomers.

Is there something that I am missing in setting up this service?  We have it running as a service.  Learning is activated and we have it set as99% spam probability.

I know that we can not eliminate all SPAM but I just don’t believethat the Bayesian Filtering is doing it’s job at all or not doing a very goodone as far as analyzing emails that are passed to it.

Jason E.

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