Spam Filter ISP Forums : iPhones and SMTP auth

Spam Filter ISP Forums : iPhones and SMTP auth https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ Thu, 05 Mar 2026 15:01:03 +0000 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:20:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.04 360 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6190 <![CDATA[Spam Filter ISP Forums]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/ <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : Correct. ]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12545&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12545 Author: LogSat
Subject: 6190
Posted: 24 December 2008 at 3:20pm

Correct.]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:20:38 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12545&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12545 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : So Iphone users should choose...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12544&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12544 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 6190
Posted: 24 December 2008 at 2:38pm

So Iphone users should choose PASSWORD as the authentication method, correct?]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:38:44 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12544&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12544 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : It's one of the ones used...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12543&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12543 Author: LogSat
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Posted: 23 December 2008 at 4:43pm

It's one of the ones used by Apple, but not the only one. To be honest I can't be sure if they recently enabled a new AUTH extension or we got lucky in our tests and found one they do support... but it seems to work with both devices (iPhone v2.2 and Leopard OS X 10.5.6)]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:43:10 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12543&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12543 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : I thought CRAM-MD5 was what iphone...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12542&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12542 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 6190
Posted: 23 December 2008 at 4:25pm

I thought CRAM-MD5 was what iphone used.

I guess I'll just have to wait until I get a call (if I get call ;-) about someone asking how to get an Iphone or Mac box working for outgoing email by way of authentication thru the most current version.

Thanks!

]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:25:07 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12542&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12542 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : Actually we didn't enable...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12541&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12541 Author: LogSat
Subject: 6190
Posted: 23 December 2008 at 4:02pm

Actually we didn't enable CRAM-MD5 support in SpamFilter, so everything is as it was. You can still use all previous authentication methods (Unix crypt, Active Directory with non-reversible encryption, etc), they are not affected by this new feature.]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:02:51 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12541&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12541 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : LogSat wrote:Most likely we...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12540&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12540 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 6190
Posted: 22 December 2008 at 3:50pm

LogSat wrote:

Most likely we will not be adding CRAM-MD5 support to SpamFilter. To use CRAM-MD5, SpamFilter should have access to the actual user's password.

This is not possible if using Unix's password files, and would require significantly lowering Active Directory's security by configuring it for reversible encryption for passwords (which could also require resetting all of the user's passwords). LDAP directories may support CRAM-MD5 authentication requests.

Roberto,

We use Unix password file for authentication. Is this still true for the new version with CRAM-MD5 support? I don't have a Mac or Iphone to test with after loading the new version.

]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:50:45 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12540&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12540 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : woohoo!! ]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12539&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12539 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 6190
Posted: 21 December 2008 at 4:36pm

woohoo!!]]> Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:36:59 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12539&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12539 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : FYI we just made available in...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12538&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12538 Author: LogSat
Subject: 6190
Posted: 19 December 2008 at 11:05pm

FYI we just made available in the registered user area a pre-release of SpamFilter v4.1.2.796 that should finally allow SMTP AUTH with the iPhone and Mac OS X Mail.app]]> Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:05:45 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=12538&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#12538 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : We do have separate servers for...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=10713&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#10713 Author: WebGuyz
Subject: 6190
Posted: 13 August 2007 at 9:07pm

We do have separate servers for inbound (SFE) Main (smartermail) and outbound gateways(smartermail).

The only reason I am using SFE for auth is to protect against the spammers who bypass MX servers and try to send directly to servers. Our users use mail.xxxx.com for both incoming and outgoing servers (which is our main server) . While smartermail won't relay for a non-customer, it will attempt to deliver email to that server if its a valid domain on that server and it will attempt dictionary attacks against that server.

If way back when I had created a separate dns entry for outgoing and pointed it to a different server then this would have been moot. But since I had hundreds of users already setup that way SF fit the bill to authenticate using the same outgoing mail server as before.

Looking at Openldap or MS's free AD/AM as a possiblity of standardizing on LDAP for auth when I get some time.

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:07:12 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=10713&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#10713 <![CDATA[iPhones and SMTP auth : WebGuyz,In my experience (trial...]]> https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=10711&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#10711 Author: atifghaffar
Subject: 6190
Posted: 13 August 2007 at 6:17pm

WebGuyz,

In my experience (trial and error), Its best to separate all different mail servers.
SF(I|E) are best left as MX Servers.

I have separate servers doing the following.

MX Server (SFI)
Accept mails from other mailservers for AuthorizedTo emails and forward to incoming mailserver. DO not ALLOW SMTP-AUTH (Relaying only)

Outgoing servers that do only one thing.
Send mails to other MX.

SMTP-AUTH Servers.
Similar like the outgoing servers except that they only auth SMTP-AUTH (No Relaying, even for the master domain or any other domin)

This keeps things nicely separated to also debug....

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:17:01 +0000 https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6190&PID=10711&title=iphones-and-smtp-auth#10711