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   <title>Verizon blocking email because we refuse blank mail from : Judu, Can you please try connecting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=8" rel="nofollow">LogSat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2665<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 February 2004 at 11:16pm<br /><br /><P>Judu,</P><P>Can you please try connecting to verizon manually via telnet to send them an email, and record and post back the session results?</P><P>From a DOS prompt on your SMTP server (it's important you perform this from your SMTP server itself), can you issue the commands in red below? Verizon's response is in blue.</P><P>Roberto F.<BR>LogSat Software</P><P><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><STRONG>telnet relay.verizon.net 25</STRONG></FONT><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>220 sc003pub.verizon.net MailPass SMTP server v1.1.1 - 121803235448JY ready </SPAN></FONT><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:date Month="2" Day="4" Year="2004"><FONT color=blue><st1:date Month="2" Day="4" Year="2004"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Wed, 4 Feb 2004</SPAN></st1:date></FONT></st1:date><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time Hour="22" Minute="1"><FONT color=blue><st1:time Hour="22" Minute="1"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">22:01:36</SPAN></st1:time></FONT></st1:time><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"> -0600<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">EHLO judu<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>250-sc003pub.verizon.net<BR></SPAN></FONT><st1:stockticker><st1:stockticker><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">MAIL</SPAN></st1:stockticker></FONT></st1:stockticker><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> FROM:&lt;someone@</SPAN></FONT> <FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">bhs1.org&gt;<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>250 Sender &lt;someone@</SPAN></FONT> <FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">bhs1.org&gt; OK<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">RCPT TO:<A HREF="mailto:postmaster@verizon.net" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. ">postmaster@verizon.net</A><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>250 Recipient &lt;postmaster@verizon.net&gt; Ok<BR></SPAN></FONT><st1:stockticker><st1:stockticker><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">DATA<BR></SPAN></st1:stockticker></FONT></st1:stockticker><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>354 Ok Send data ending with &lt;CRLF&gt;.&lt;CRLF&gt;<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">From: <A HREF="mailto:someone@bhs1.org" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. "><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">someone@bhs1.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN><A HREF="mailto:someone@bhs1.orgTo" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. "></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red"><BR>To</A>: <A HREF="mailto:postmaster@verizon.com" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. "><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">postmaster@verizon.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">Subject: test<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red"><BR>test<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">.<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>250 Message received: <A HREF="mailto:20040205040136.FKOZ6907.mta015.verizon.net@judu" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. ">20040205040136.FKOZ6907.mta015.verizon.net@judu</A><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">QUIT<BR></P></SPAN></FONT><P><P><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></P>]]>
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   <title>Verizon blocking email because we refuse blank mail from : I too have been plagued by the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2665<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 February 2004 at 6:25pm<br /><br /><P>I too have been plagued by the blocking of sending emails to verizon.net customers from my domain bhs1.org</P><P>I have un checked the " Reject if empty "Mail From"" and still having problems.</P><P>Running Spam Filter v.1.2.0.212 (REGISTERED)</P><P>Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks</P><P>Judu</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.</P><P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject:&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent:&nbsp;2/4/2004 6:04 PM</P><P>The following recipient(s) could not be reached:</P><P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A HREF="mailto:abuse@verizon.net" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. ">abuse@verizon.net</A> on 2/4/2004 6:05 PM<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure<BR>&nbsp;The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Berkshire Health;l=BHSNT-040204230419Z-94515<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MSEXCH:IMS:Berkshire Health Systems:BHSMAIL:BHSNT 3550 (000B09AA) 550 You are not allowed to send mail:sc002pub.verizon.net</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Verizon blocking email because we refuse blank mail from : Good idea... :) </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2665<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 January 2004 at 10:45pm<br /><br />Good idea...&nbsp; :)]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Verizon blocking email because we refuse blank mail from : i noted the same problems with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2665<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 January 2004 at 8:05am<br /><br /><P>i noted the same problems with lamer postmaster on several european isp`s too.</P><P>so i changed the ehlo banner (welcome) of logsat in :</P><P>.this systems complies strict with rfc 821/22smtp and rfc 1912rdns,&nbsp;but blank senders are dropped.</P><P>afterwards, no more questions asked by lamer postmaster anymore.... :-)</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Verizon blocking email because we refuse blank mail from : Well after months I have finally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2665<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 January 2004 at 5:48pm<br /><br /><P>Well after months I have finally found out why our domain is not allowed to send email to any verizon.net address!&nbsp; Back in Oct 03 they started using Brightmail and started performing a 'sender verification' check.&nbsp; This is not an SMTP VRFY but rather their system once you do a MAIL FROM to them instantly makes a connection back to your domain to verify that it can send a message to the sender!&nbsp; But whichever moron configured this forgot to configure the test system to put a 'MAIL FROM' email address in the test, so when Spamfilter ISP blocks the request because Mail from is empty, it immediately causes Verizon to block accepting the message you are trying to send the Verizon endloser.</P><P>Since Logsat Spamfilter ISP has in realtime has an activity log, I was able to attempt a connection to relay.verizon.net, put a MAIL FROM: <A HREF="mailto:ddd@alexanders.net" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. ">ddd@alexanders.net</A> and on my Spamfilter it displays the error!</P><P>01/09/04 13:31:38:718 -- (1928) Resolving 206.46.170.180 - sc004pub.verizon.net<BR>01/09/04 13:31:38:718 -- (1928) - Empty Mail From - <BR>01/09/04 13:31:38:718 -- (1928) 206.46.170.180 - Mail from:&nbsp; To: <A HREF="mailto:ddd@alexanders.net" CLASS="ASPForums" TITLE="WARNING: URL created by poster. ">ddd@alexanders.net</A> will be disconnected<BR>01/09/04 13:31:38:718 -- (1928) Disconnect</P><P><BR>So now how do we get Verizon to fix their end so we can continue to refuse 'null sender' addresses?</P><P>For the time being I have configured Spamfilter ISP to quarantine blank senders, but I would rather have it not quarantine such messages and 'refuse the connection'. </P><P>What is so idiotic is Verizon is checking and making sure our Mail-From is legit, yet they don't want to play by the same rules and allow us to do the same checking when their system does a test with a blank from address!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size=2>&nbsp;</P></FONT>]]>
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